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BigGamer
September 7, 2002 - 9:59:38pm61 of 113
To: XboxCubePS2Login
I always thought of a "console" as something that "sat in place". Most definitions of "console" in the dictionary have something to do with "cabinets", or "controls".
xjames19
September 7, 2002 - 10:01:35pm (edit: 9/7/02 - 10:02pm)62 of 113
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In my native country we name to all console, Atari.

lol. There is not such thing like nintendo or playstation. Just Atari.

Un saludo amigo.

And the old people think that it break the tv.
BigGamer
September 7, 2002 - 10:03:42pm63 of 113
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LOL ! So true. Where I live, it was Atari for most of the 80s. In the 90s you heard Nintendo, and the occasional Sega. Now it's mostly "Playstation". The naive mainstream.....
xjames19
September 7, 2002 - 10:23:55pm (edit: 9/7/02 - 10:28pm)64 of 113
To: BigGamerLogin
And in spain nintendo is called Niñendo. Niño means child, boy.

Un saludo amigo,

And microsoft is mocosoft. moco means snot. I don't sure about this one I used altavista translator.
XboxCubePS2
September 7, 2002 - 10:29:35pm65 of 113
To: BigGamerLogin
There was a time TVs were called "television sets", today a TV can be found 60 inches or larger, to a 5" one mounted in a minivan, to a 1 inch screen on a watch. In any case, they're all called TVs...whether its a "big-screen TV", "plasma TV" or "handheld TV". They all share the same basic function.

Same with consoles. Videogame consoles are still consoles no matter what shape they come in as long as they share the same basic function of playing videogames.
BigGamer
September 7, 2002 - 10:37:49pm (edit: 9/7/02 - 11:05pm)66 of 113
To: XboxCubePS2Login
I'm going to blow your mind, they are "Video Game Systems".....or how about "Video Game Machines"? The portable ones are "handhelds". The larger ones you hook up to the tv are called "consoles". Same kind of thing as.....hens, roosters, and chickens...they are all chickens, the rooster has.....; )
Suckattack
September 7, 2002 - 10:42:07pm67 of 113
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NEC PowerVR 2nd Gen. KICKS GS' ass!
XboxCubePS2
September 7, 2002 - 11:11:59pm (edit: 9/7/02 - 11:12pm)68 of 113
To: BigGamerLogin
No, "consoles" is a category, whereas "handheld" is a sub-category. In the term "handheld console", "handheld" modifies "console". In the term "home console", "home" modifies "console". "Handheld" and "home" are adjectives modifying the noun. They are both "consoles" in this context.

According to Roget's Dictionary:
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Console
n

1: a small table fixed to a wall or designed to stand against a wall [syn: console table]
2: an instrument consisting of displays and an input device that an operator can use to monitor and control a system (especially a computer system)
3: an ornamental scroll-shaped bracket (especially one used to support a wall fixture); "the bust of Napoleon stood on a console"
4: housing for electronic instruments, as radio or television [syn: cabinet]
5: give moral or emotional strength to [syn: comfort, soothe, solace]

Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
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1. Xbox, PS2, Cube, GBA (gameboy)...none apply here since these devices are not tables or any other piece of furniture.

2. Hm. Displays AND an input device? Home videogame consoles require TVs or monitors to be used. The Gameboy systems were input devices AND had monitors. According to this defintion, portable videogame systems are the only true consoles. Let's move on...

3. None of the devices are used to support a wall fixture.

4. All of the systems are used to house electronic system, therefore this definition applies.

5. All the devices may give some of you comfort or solace, but this isn't the context we're looking for.

Definitions #2 and #4 apply to videogame systems in order to qualify for being categorized as a "console".

Let's look at the term "video game"...again from Roget's:

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Video Game
n.

An electronic or computerized game played by manipulating images on a video display or television screen.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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All the videogame systems correctly suit the definition of "video game".

So when using the term "video game console", of Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, and GBA (Gameboy), only GBA completely suits the entire term since examining the term "console" shows that only the handheld system fits both relevent definitions (#2 and #4). For "video game", all systems qualify.

Lastly, let's look at "system":
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Sys·tem
n.

1: A group of interacting, interrelated, or interdependent elements forming a complex whole.
2: A functionally related group of elements, especially:
The human body regarded as a functional physiological unit.
3: An organism as a whole, especially with regard to its vital processes or functions.
4: A group of physiologically or anatomically complementary organs or parts: the nervous system; the skeletal system.
5: A group of interacting mechanical or electrical components.
6: A network of structures and channels, as for communication, travel, or distribution.
7: A network of related computer software, hardware, and data transmission devices.
8: An organized set of interrelated ideas or principles.
9: A social, economic, or political organizational form.
10: A naturally occurring group of objects or phenomena: the solar system.
11: A set of objects or phenomena grouped together for classification or analysis.
12: A condition of harmonious, orderly interaction.
13: An organized and coordinated method; a procedure. See Synonyms at method.
14: The prevailing social order; the establishment. Used with the: You can't beat the system.
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Definitions 1, 5, and 7, clearly fit Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, and GBA (gameboy). 6 and 12 could possibly fit depending on context and subjective interpretation.

Therefore, the term "system" fits all the gaming platforms. Since "video game" and "system" both clearly fit all the platforms, "video game systems" is the correct term to describe what they are. "Video game console" only correctly describes the GBA (gameboy) of the four platforms. It appears the general usage of "console" to describe all the systems can be described as slang.
Pichu
September 8, 2002 - 9:04:52am69 of 113
To: XboxCubePS2Login
It's just too bad that XBOX uses Intel CPU, not AMD CPU; otherwise, that will make XBOX the best, don't you think so?
BigGamer
September 8, 2002 - 9:06:52am (edit: 9/8/02 - 9:07am)70 of 113
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5: give moral or emotional strength to [syn: comfort, soothe, solace]
That's the only console you should be worried about right now, Mr. Too Much Time On His Hands !! (This was intended for Xboxgamecube)
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